Curse

holy saints · Jan 21, 2008, 07:07 PM // 19:07

This is stilla beta sort of build I think it works excellent in missions though.

This are the results of 1 vs 1 battles:

Out of the 6, 1 vs 1 battles. All 6 rated my build 5/5. 2 People said it was unbeatable. There was only 1 person who was able to get my health below 50%. And that was without Mystic Regeneration.

Here are the skills I use:

Dragon Slash (Elite)
Sun and Moon Slash
"For Great Justice!"
Heart of Fury
Mystic Vigor
Mystic Regeneration
Watchful Intervention
Faithful Intervention

Cast Faithful Intervention >
Before Battle Cast Watchful Intervention, Mystic Vigor >
When going to attack Cast Heart of Fury, "For Great Justice!" >
Spam Dragon Slash and SMS >
Cast Mystic Regen if you get in trouble >
Keep it up like that.
(This was just wroted real quick)

Anyway when you use Dragon Slash + FGJ You will get 8 rage. Allowing you to use SMS and gets you on 12 rage in DS (there was already 8 there) allowing you to keep spamming those 2 skills for 20 seconds and +33% faster.
Mystic Vigor keeps you alive with 75 health in like 1.5 seconds from DS and SMS if you keep up all enchanments.

Ill write a big guide later on this then you will all understand everything.

Im still doubting about swords though here's my choices:

Health + 30 or Ench +20%

Ench is nice for longer keep up so you dont have to spam your 1-8 buttons so much. Health +30 is just nice :P

Anyway I just want your opionon on this build and maybe some improvements?

blurmedia · Jan 21, 2008, 07:09 PM // 19:09

1v1...? how useful

and it's ADRENALINE, not rage damit

I Phoenix I · Jan 21, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

1v1 doesn't tell much in terms of actually efficiency in a game like Guild Wars -.-

I really don't understand why you'd run so many enchantments and a sword...

Who exactly did you 1v1 and what professions / builds were they running? Were they actually people of skill or random people from RA? Something like a CripShot would beat you easily...and things like a BSurge would shut you down hard. Anti-melee hexes could probably beat you too.

Your build is lacking hex removal (which will screw you over if they are anti-melee hexes), condition removal (cripple, blind, dazed), a running skill, etc...

I rate it like a 2/5...

holy saints · Jan 21, 2008, 07:29 PM // 19:29

Hmm... They were dervish/elementist and it survived the crappy blind. And yes it weakness is enchament remove. Also I tested it aroud Tyrian for mission build and it just works excellent with it. And why would crip shot OWN ME HARD? It only cripples ? And I don't use blocks? And like the only person who did almost beat me cuz he used the avatar of Lyssa and hitted sometimes around the 150 cause I was casting and I had that HP back in 3-4 seconds. And yes I think BSurge can own me but name 1 build that can't get owned.

EDIT: About anti melee hexes? Empathy won't work cause of 25 health per hit +9 regen from Mystic Regen. But like shatter enchament could own me.

Dai Ichiban · Jan 21, 2008, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by holy saints

Hmm... They were dervish/elementist and it survived the crappy blind. And yes it weakness is enchament remove. Also I tested it aroud Tyrian for mission build and it just works excellent with it. And why would crip shot OWN ME HARD? It only cripples ? And I don't use blocks? And like the only person who did almost beat me cuz he used the avatar of Lyssa and hitted sometimes around the 150 cause I was casting and I had that HP back in 3-4 seconds. And yes I think BSurge can own me but name 1 build that can't get owned.

EDIT: About anti melee hexes? Empathy won't work cause of 25 health per hit +9 regen from Mystic Regen. But like shatter enchament could own me.

empathy SS insidious parastie all together on you would be lots of fun for you though. Maybe throw in backfire to stop you from casting too.

I Phoenix I · Jan 21, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

...do you even know what a CripShot is? You'd get Crippled (can't attack him), Poisoned (degen), interrupted (no more enchantments), and, depending on the skill he'd take in a 1v1, either Bled (more degen) or hit pretty hard (70 or so with Sloth Hunter's).

What can you do? A) Limp slowly towards him. B) Alt+F4

You know...there are more anti-melee hexes than just Empathy >.> You wouldn't get the 25 health per hit because you wouldn't be able to hit. You wouldn't get the +9 regen because of something called enchantment removal.

Read some more and come back.

And to the person that just posted, you're right. Didn't think about Backfire, haha.

Alex the Great · Jan 21, 2008, 07:45 PM // 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by holy saints

And why would crip shot OWN ME HARD? It only cripples ?

becuase you would never get close enough to hit it.

2/5

where in guild wars do you get rewarded for fighting 1v1? no where because it is for straight noobs!

I Phoenix I · Jan 21, 2008, 07:48 PM // 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by holy saints

And why would crip shot OWN ME HARD? It only cripples ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex the Great

becuase you would never get close enough to hit it.

Maybe we need to define Crippled for him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuildWiki

Condition. While suffering from this injury, you move 50% slower.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Cripple

Dagger_of_Sithis · Jan 21, 2008, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dai Ichiban

empathy SS insidious parastie all together on you would be lots of fun for you though. Maybe throw in backfire to stop you from casting too.

hes a W/D dude:P

I Phoenix I · Jan 21, 2008, 07:52 PM // 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagger_of_Sithis

hes a W/D dude:P

That's where you're wrong...

1) Dervish forum
2) Look at the Mysticism skills
3) A Warrior wouldn't have enough energy for all that

By the way, did you even look at his skills before posting?

placebo overdose · Jan 21, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

lol wanna know what really owns this guy
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Domination_Magic any e denial

iridescentfyre · Jan 21, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by holy saints

And why would crip shot OWN ME HARD? It only cripples ? And I don't use blocks?

Crippled, Poisoned, Bleeding, interrupted repeatedly.

Crippling Shot is unblockable, by the way... though I don't know why you brought that up, your build doesn't include a block skill.

Quote:

Originally Posted by holy saints

And yes I think BSurge can own me but name 1 build that can't get owned.

Good point. That's exactly why 1v1 fights are pointless and cannot be used to base anything on: they're a rock-paper-scissors game. The outcome is determined before the match even begins, because one build will inevitably trump the other. Either you can counter your opponent or you can't.

eximiis · Jan 21, 2008, 08:22 PM // 20:22

a simple blocking stance would ownd the build.

or

spiteful spirit
empathy
insidious parasite
price of failure
spirit of failure
reckless haste
spirit shackles

Crom The Pale · Jan 21, 2008, 08:29 PM // 20:29

Sorry I saw the title and just had to post here....

Now correct me if I'm wrong, my dervish has been collecting dust for a few months, but doesn't a Scythe deal almost double the damage of a sword?

15-22 vs 9-41....

And a Dervish can hit multiple foes + has 2 skills with 3/4sec activation times...

Now if your a Dervish/war maybe you could pump up some points in Tactics for Thrill of Victory or Soldiers Strike, but not really sure why you would need them...

I've seen a Steady Stance/Drunken blow/Desperation blow build that works, but for the love of my 20+ cool looking swords why on earth would you want to use a Sword on a Dervish???

Darkside · Jan 21, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Adrenaline denial, enchantment removal, or almost any caster could kill this build. Also 1 vs 1 is pretty pointless in gw and doesn't really prove much.

Turtle222 · Jan 21, 2008, 09:18 PM // 21:18

A Mesmer can beat you - Anti melee, e denial
A Ranger can beat you - cripshot
A Monk can beat you - i think with a monk spike i can beat this
A Necromancer can beat you - Anti melee
A Elementalist can beat you - Blind
A Paragon can beat you - Cripple + deepwound + high damage
An Assassin can beat you - Shattering assault etc
A Ritualist can beat you Wanderlust + Diss + shadowsong
A Warrior can beat you - many many ways, he can do it better at his own game anyway :\
A Dervish can beat you - you said it yourself - lyssa beat you

Need i say more?

Der_Pardner · Jan 21, 2008, 09:56 PM // 21:56

lastly, i can beat you

~ Dan ~ · Jan 21, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11

He's pro because:

a) He uses a sword on a dervish.
b) He spends half his bar on heals and interventions.
c) His retard guild / friendslist can't beat his shit build, and don't know wtf this is: [skill]Rend Enchantments[/skill]

I love this thread already.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Jan 30, 2008, 05:22 AM // 05:22

sorry to rez a dead thread but it had to be

umm ya
mark of unsteadyness
mobious spam with nec secondary and using rend
horns of the ox as well in there

there GG build owned

blurmedia · Jan 30, 2008, 08:05 AM // 08:05

Anything with enchant removal can beat this crap build.
Let it die